tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post7823931082387021889..comments2023-07-09T01:00:02.820-07:00Comments on PINOYISTICS: WORLD-CLASS, DEFINITELY NOT LEMONADE: MORISETTE AMON & SAM MANGUBATEDhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10318558411202791875noreply@blogger.comBlogger134125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-17549000230447137342017-04-18T15:51:38.894-07:002017-04-18T15:51:38.894-07:00Bo ho ho. Halata naman wala kang maibubuga.Bo ho ho. Halata naman wala kang maibubuga.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-48644376993982743922017-04-17T18:35:12.422-07:002017-04-17T18:35:12.422-07:0012:23, Lol, you can also talk about the moon para ...12:23, Lol, you can also talk about the moon para humaba. That can also stand siguro hikhikhikAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-11058424054168428032017-04-17T12:23:25.815-07:002017-04-17T12:23:25.815-07:00Pa muddy muddy the issue ka pa, eh sino ba ang nag...Pa muddy muddy the issue ka pa, eh sino ba ang nagpapasok ng ibang subject diyan? Tulad ng Indie Film. Eh di ang mga ibang comments na nagrereply na renereplyan ko. I've been very consistent from the beginning so don't give me that same old, palusot at pa provincial provincial, pa trying trying hard ka pa, it's getting old. Try ka ng iba naman.<br /><br />I was talking about the PH Indie situation because that was from the original comment from that person who brought it up. Pero sa tanong mo na: "May nakita ka nang Indie na top grosser sa Amerika o Japan o anywhere?". Of course meron. In fact, there is such a list of the top grossing Indie Films annually. Not as gigantic as hollywood hits but they are top grosser nonetheless. So that settles that.<br /><br />And of course the risk is always there for indie film, just as mainstream film is not immune to risks and we have seen so many mainstream flops before. Indeed, indie films everywhere doesn't generally earn as much in comparison to mainstream films (who says otherwise) that is why I said Indie and Mainstream are two different beast. That's just the nature of the beast. But the difference in the earnings of indie film vs mainstream is irrespective of the mukha that someone try to pin as the reason why it is so. The indie film "Dukot", starring Enrique Gil didn't even fare well even after ABS-CBN help in the promotion. "Honor Thy Father" didn't even break even kaya lugi. So much for that argument. <br /><br />But what is in it for PH indie film is that an indie film is able to make some money off of overseas sales, and more often than not, nakakabawi sila doon at meron pang profit, not anything to brag about, but enough that makes them happy and motivated to do more films. One recent example of that is "Honor Thy Father", it didn't break even locally but nakabawi sila overseases and they even made some profit. <br />My comment still stand.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-66887610710334926442017-04-16T20:06:38.548-07:002017-04-16T20:06:38.548-07:00Wow,131 na posts. Sikat pala si Morisette?!Wow,131 na posts. Sikat pala si Morisette?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-72318217330714222292017-04-16T17:45:35.709-07:002017-04-16T17:45:35.709-07:0011:38, Alam mo ibig sabihin ng muddy the issue? Ya...11:38, Alam mo ibig sabihin ng muddy the issue? Yan lang ginagawa ng mga arguments mo, hanggang may pumapasok sa isip mo, gaano ka-irrelevant, hihirit pa rin bakasakaling makalusot. Matagal ka nang supalpal pero trying hard pa rin.Very provincial.<br />Again, I repeat: Indies generally don't gross much everywhere, yan ang sinabi ko, di ko sinasabing di kita yong kakarampot na kita nila abroad. Maganda sa media ang mga write-ups tungkol sa mga success ng mga indies pero they never guaranteed these would generate the pull of the usual mainstream hits. Again, hindi lang sa Pilipinas, Indies generally don't earn much everywhereAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-68109023420867608232017-04-16T11:38:17.005-07:002017-04-16T11:38:17.005-07:0012:38 AM Di mo alam ang pinagsasabi mo. Diyan ng...12:38 AM Di mo alam ang pinagsasabi mo. Diyan nga sa labas ng bansa kumikita at bumabawi ang indie film dahil walang sumosuporta sa Pilipinas. Hindi sa top grosser kumita ang mga indie film kundi sa mga distributer na gusto idistribute ang mga film ng indie. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-20005742648295595502017-04-16T00:38:23.674-07:002017-04-16T00:38:23.674-07:004:19, Hindi lang sa Pilipinas di kumikita ang Indi...4:19, Hindi lang sa Pilipinas di kumikita ang Indie, throughout the world yan. May nakita ka nang Indie na top grosser sa Amerika o Japan o anywhere? Human nature yan. May gusto lang ma-entertain, may gusto sa ibang hilig. Obvious naman kung sino ang mas mabentaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-53549463933115338402017-04-15T16:25:58.141-07:002017-04-15T16:25:58.141-07:005:38 PM Unhealthy nga sa Pinoy na ang tinatanggap...5:38 PM Unhealthy nga sa Pinoy na ang tinatanggap lang na mas maganda ay ang Europeanized. Baliktad eh. Dapat matutunan rin nilang tanggapin na magaganda rin sila. Hard to believe na mistizo sa kanila si pacquiao? Mag pacheck up sila ng mata.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-23198289639693000102017-04-15T16:19:45.447-07:002017-04-15T16:19:45.447-07:003:56 PM Indie and Mainstream are two different be...3:56 PM Indie and Mainstream are two different beast. And what are you talking about? Indie film is the reason why Philippine Cinema is making a comeback (which is considered to be dead) despite little support from the public who would rather support a Vice Ganda mainstream movie than a quality-made movie. Indie films is also the one that is bringing recognition to the Philppines thanks to the awards and accolade they've won and gained over the years. Ang mga mukhang latina ay partido na rin diyan sa mistiso at mukhang mistiso. Dati nang ganyan sa atin noon pa.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-92197491147001978972017-04-15T15:57:50.565-07:002017-04-15T15:57:50.565-07:003:56 PM It's the other way around. Walang na...3:56 PM It's the other way around. Walang nagmamagaling-galingan dito, nagbibigay lang ng ibang alternative viewpoint, at gaya ng sabi mo, to temper ang mga tao dito.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-41285299476577251152017-04-15T13:47:20.188-07:002017-04-15T13:47:20.188-07:003:39 PM Sure, sure, I get that. But what you say...3:39 PM Sure, sure, I get that. But what you say is pangit, it's not pangit for others. Only a handful of people here are saying they are pangit. That doesn't make them pangit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-73114278988487300592017-04-15T13:42:33.301-07:002017-04-15T13:42:33.301-07:003:31 PM Still nothing to say again except more of...3:31 PM Still nothing to say again except more of the usual nonsense and low IQ's and quality of english and more stupid assumptions. And now you are even paranoid. Keep guessing sucka. If you think you've replied to all the points, then leave and stop replying since YOU are only stretching the conversation, but I guess you just couldn't stay away from this thread can you?<br /><br />That's right, nobody cares about the issue and hence here I am, and you know what, I've ruffles some feathers. I can see why people might be angry but that's good. Having beautiful stars and having mestizo or one's race is not a problem but when you have a bulok system and a showbiz and sheeple that perpetuate a bulok na systema is an issue worth looking into.<br /><br />It's not me that is the dishonest here. Why don't you look in the mirror and you'll see one. Judging by your comment(s) and your constant concerned for who's more intelligent and who has more IQ, I think you are the one who is very much insecure. You think this forum is only for intelligent people? L-O-L that. From what I've seen in this forum and other forum of this blog, this forum looks more like a circus than anything else.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-77225560967461092692017-04-14T17:38:37.554-07:002017-04-14T17:38:37.554-07:00One more thing, yang definition ng mestizo ay masy...One more thing, yang definition ng mestizo ay masyadong strict sa Pilipinas. Nagulat ako sa sabi minsan ng kaibigan kong Colombian na mestizo si Pacquiao sa kanila. Kasi dahil sa paghalohalo sa kanila, anybody na di mukhang Amerindian doon (na maitim at singkit), anybody na nalahian ay mas maputi, mestizo ang tawag maski di masyado Europeanized ang features.Kasi di naman natin alam ang genetic history ni Pacquiao, baka may ninuno pala siya na Guardia civil Saka puwede namamg may Europeanized din ang features ng isa pero ang namana niya ang melanin propensity ng mga Malay o Amerindian, di mas maitim naman siya lalo na nasa equator tayo gaya ng Colombia pero mestizo pa rin siya. <br />Dapat kasi di na isyu yang kung sino ang mestizo at kung sino ang native kasi mahirap na pati genetic history ng bawat isa ay kakalkalin pa. Importante lang kung panget ba siya o hindi. Eh kung talagang mas maganda yong Europeanized ang features, eh so what? Dapat matutunan ng ibang Pinoy na tanggapin sila. Na I think tinatanggap naman ng karamihan, iilan lang naman ang hindiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-67519060052287027942017-04-14T17:20:24.234-07:002017-04-14T17:20:24.234-07:00Di na dapat issue yang native vs mestizo kasi sinc...Di na dapat issue yang native vs mestizo kasi since 1970's, mas maraming native ang na-discover. For the past 20 years, may Mongoloid campaign din (kaya nga nakasakay ang mga Koreano) pero sa huli, alam pa rin ng Pinoy ang magaganda. Noong sumikat ang mga magagagandang Pinoy, naitsapuwera na ang mga karaniwan kasi ang Pinoy sanay na sa maraming ethnicities yan, melting pot tayo, alam na natin ang talagang maganda. Nakakasawa na ang mga trying hard, walang silbi ang kampakampanya at propaganda pag kulang talaga...dapat yong talagang kaaya-aya na sa mata para maglabas tayo ng pera at manuodAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-55989308572496624762017-04-14T16:37:06.665-07:002017-04-14T16:37:06.665-07:00Hindi, gusto lang ni 1:47 na dinggin nyo yong bala...Hindi, gusto lang ni 1:47 na dinggin nyo yong balance na sinasabi. Actually, meron na naman yan pero di lang maganda ang response ng tao. Pero mas marami pa rin ang mukhang native. May 150 Pinoy films per year, karamihan ay Indies kaysa mainstream. Yon nga lang, they were given the chance pero nangibabaw pa rin ang mga magaganda who admittedly are mixed. Well, that's very Pinoy kasi maski saan man sa Pilipinas, nalahian ang mga magaganda sa probinsiya. Napapansin lang masyado ang mga mestizo ngayon kasi marami ang dual, yong mga anak ng mga OFW, pero marami naman ang homegrown dahil sa history natin. Isa pa, pagkatapos ng mga kampanya, mula sa Malay sa panahon ni Nora at sa Mongoloid campaign for the past 20 years, parang nagsawa na ang mga tao sa mga karaniwang mukha at naghahanap uli sila ng talagang magaganda. Bunsod na rin ng internet age na by the click of the mouse, napagkukumpara mo instantly ang mga mukha. Very hot ang mga Latina ngayon at marami tayong mukhang Latina. Panahon nila ngayon kasi nagsawa na ang tao sa mga karaniwanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-8224830997423306622017-04-14T15:56:04.020-07:002017-04-14T15:56:04.020-07:00Oo nga, may ilusyon pa siya to temper pa raw ang m...Oo nga, may ilusyon pa siya to temper pa raw ang mga tao rito. Grabe mag-ilusyon.Ang dami namang propaganda sites ang mga Koreano, di doon na lang siya, marami tanga roon. Kabaro niya. Baka mabayaran pa siya di swerte siya. Maggagaling-galingan siya rito akala papatulan siyaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-53554275144217014302017-04-14T15:39:47.102-07:002017-04-14T15:39:47.102-07:00You definitely can say your low standard of magand...You definitely can say your low standard of maganda is maganda. Well, we find the Koreans are panget and they are really ugly- so do we really enjoy the company of somebody with lower standards than us? This blog celebrates beauty- & how can everybody enjoy the celebration if one is saying his hossanas to a dog while everybody else were acclaiming the goddeses? <br />Perhaps you should improve your taste before aspiring to join the group? Perhaps you should join a group with a poor taste like yours? You know, birds of the same feather flock togetherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-65127830827299802402017-04-14T15:31:39.762-07:002017-04-14T15:31:39.762-07:001:47, Frankly all the points have been replied to ...1:47, Frankly all the points have been replied to previously, you just stretched the conversations. And you think by talking more, you muddled your low IQ & come out swinging you are above everybody. Like in your last post (though I doubt you were the same person because your English is better now, you probably has a master there)<br /> Granting you are the same person, you only have one issue to float- your so called majority whch were amply replied to that nobody cares because we have already established above that we need beautiful stars, race is not important, that if the beautiful stars were mestizo, so what?<br /><br />No need to debate with the likes of you- you are clearly dishonest intellectually, & if your aim is to present yourself as the more intelligent by writing more & think by doing so present the forum as less intelligent than the likes of you, well, congratulations, you can dream. This forum is not for insecures or trying hards, it's for the really intelligent ones. They know a lemon from a mere poseur<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-89037609642700954382017-04-14T13:47:01.260-07:002017-04-14T13:47:01.260-07:00Again, typical response from someone who got nothi...Again, typical response from someone who got nothing to say, so turns to attacking the messenger and making stupid assumptions again. Funny you talk about time and vacation on Good Friday, yet you have time to respond to my comments? I'm only here to answer replies to my comment anyway. I doubt no one is interested in the issues discussed in my comment thread or my comments. In fact, it is the opposite. Someone even said maganda ang discussion dito, and judging by the many replies, it certainly is busy. People are indeed interested in what I have to say whether they agree with me or not. You said my argument are useless and that who needs balance? You say that because you got nothing better to say. In fact you got nothing to say at all.<br /><br />There is nothing propaganda in what I wrote, only a disagreement on the prevailing viewpoint here. I also don't care if you run to the Admin for help and have my posts deleted. <br /><br />Can't I even say na maganda rin sila? Only a dishonest person would disagree with that. Maybe you need a good dose of cold water in order to straightened out your way of thinking.<br /><br />This is also one of the reasons why there's a need to be a check and balance in this blog because the constant disparaging by people in this blog, specially the negativity coming from the comments in the comment area is not healthy to the image and to the promotion of our content and us. It could also create a negative backlash. You won't win any love or support that way with ill-wills. This blog doesn't need a pactard-like or a dutertard-like kind of comments that will only drag it down. There is also a need to temper the self-belief by many people in here that Sila are so pangit and you are so maganda. This has gone so far up in the clouds that it requires tempering in order that it won't backfire in a negative way and harm us in the end. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-34151977538978249472017-04-13T17:15:22.257-07:002017-04-13T17:15:22.257-07:001:18,1:22, well, you must have a lonely life you h...1:18,1:22, well, you must have a lonely life you have no time for vacation and persists with your pretentious posts even on a Goid Friday. And even with all your free time, wala ka pa ring maisip na matino. You create issues na ikaw lang interesado.Useless arguments. Who needs your balance? <br /><br />Be prewarned btw that your belated propaganda work for the Koreans are not allowed in this blog. I will recommend to the Admin to delete 1:18 post when he returns from vacation. No need to be fair to the Koreans because they will block you to their propaganda sites when they don't like you. And just saying they even look good makes interacting with you useless because you obviously have a low standard of looks, so it would be a waste of time interacting with somebody of your poor logic & poor taste for beauty.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-33514147414847491362017-04-13T13:22:04.196-07:002017-04-13T13:22:04.196-07:009:22 PM If there is balance in the make up of sh...9:22 PM If there is balance in the make up of showbiz, then sure there is no problem if one doesn't look like a particular race or majority. But the problem is the face of showbiz is lopsided and it does not at all true to the representation of what Filpino looks like. <br />Don't you realized what you are saying? You are just giving example to what's wrong here about worshiping puti or wanting to be one, which is just supporting what I'm trying to illuminate, among other things. At least you are honest.<br />Not being well known does not mean you are not beautiful. One can be beautiful but not well known.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-80012948611850909812017-04-13T13:18:05.710-07:002017-04-13T13:18:05.710-07:008:46 PM So basically what you are saying is you h...8:46 PM So basically what you are saying is you have no argument (again) so you turn to commenting on the length of my post or make stupid assumptions about stupid and irrelevant things. Typical walang maibubuga.<br /><br />Keep guessing, fool. Your deep prejudice and bias towards koreans is only exposing your unfair view of them. I shouldn't be surprised since even people of your own you seem to have little respect for them.<br /><br />Intellectual pretensions? as palusot for Mongoloids? Only in your mind. There's no one pretending to be "intellectual" here, let alone trying to be one. I thought you are smart. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-31033140541502044202017-04-12T21:22:36.533-07:002017-04-12T21:22:36.533-07:00There's no need to look like the majority or a...There's no need to look like the majority or a particular race. It's enough one looks good enough to represent a people with the full spectrum of looks-, if that means more mestizo, then so be it, anyway that is still very Filipino- all that is important is the star has a look that is marketable not only to a gullible set of people but to a wider audience with varying set of prejudice, because this is mainly a business anyway. If it increases sales of whitening products, good for the economy. If it increases plastic surgery, good for the surgeons & soon-to-be beautiful.<br /><br />I actually think we should increase our expectation- if our stars goad more Pinays wanting to make silo foreign guys to produce more Tisoys, why that's good. We'll just improve the gene. Meaning, we do concrete steps to look better. That's better than wishfully claiming one is beautiful too despite one's generally ignored looks. At least, we've proven our mixed races produce world-class looks so we should encourage it.<br />That is not self-hate- wanting to improve an obvious deficit is self-love.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-87798643721734046952017-04-12T20:46:35.448-07:002017-04-12T20:46:35.448-07:00You seem to love saying some people are wrong... A...You seem to love saying some people are wrong... And you are not? You wrote a mouthful there, it just shows you are living in a parallel universe, & you must think you are in a higher level. It's as if you suddenly decided you're tired of being clueless & now wants to pretend to be an expert? Well, you basically shot yourself in the head with the crap you've been writing. But no need to bother commenting on what you think, basically palusots which didn't make lusot anyway. Rest on your imagined glory.<br />Btw, you must be a pure Mongoloid too to write people see them as magaganda. But...probably, at least qualify that as SOME people finding them magaganda? Really, I still have to meet those people who think like you, even among Pinoy Mongoloids (granted, those I know are mostly mixed btw,including me, & most have had eyelid repairs). I don't find the rush to copy their looks if many really find them beautiful , people actually do surgery not to look like them, including Mongoloids themselves.<br />I think, all your intellectual pretensions were mainly a cover to make palusot that Mongoloid thing. Kahabahaba ng prusisyon, doon din pala ang tuloy Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8962379935166244967.post-57410844945936497612017-04-12T17:55:49.722-07:002017-04-12T17:55:49.722-07:006:33 AM My comment to 6:59 PM was in reply to his...6:33 AM My comment to 6:59 PM was in reply to his previous post. He/she was simply bragging, and judging by the theme of this blog+comments na pangit ang mga korean kahit ano pa ang gawin nila? Ay mali. Hindi riding in high horse kung sabihin yan, kundi yan ang tama lang na sabihin dahil hindi naman kayo fair eh. My comment still stand.<br /><br />See, that's where you are wrong. People do find it that mongoloid like koreans are magaganda, and many of them are indeed magaganda. People also find them more maganda than southeast asians. I think you are being dishonest here, or you are just believing in your own propaganda.<br /><br />6:41 AM The incident with the foreigner was not to show if I was concerned with their opinion or not, but to illustrate a point that the face of showbiz, or the face that we want the world to see as us, is not representing us, nor is it the true reality. No amount of history lesson is going to ironed that away if what you got is a bait and switched situation that is not entirely honest. <br />In your story of the russian forumer, if she had researched enough, she would come to realized that the majority of Filipinos are malay-looking and not at all what you see on TV/Film as representation of Filipinos.<br /><br /><br />11:50 AM There is nothing to pander to. It is just simply that there is an issue that people have overlooked or are unaware or just in denial of the existence of the situation and don't want to talk about it. There is variations in the spectrum of the faces of Filipinos, but still, and again, the vast majority of Filpinos are overwhelmingly malay-looking. Don't you think that the face of showbiz should be more balance in light of that? I think so. <br />You can't expect a system whose preference and biased is for mixed or white-looking while others are rejected to be fair in its selection process.<br /><br />That little story of yours is more of a reflection of the person giving the story, which also served as an illustration to the kind of things I"ve been talking about of people from my other post about the story teller. <br /><br />Nobody is saying na pilitin ang isang would-be artistang hindi maganda na maging artista. I've already made my postion clear from my other post here. It's not even anyone's business anyway if one wants to be an artista or not.<br /><br />Maybe what the screen or people should do instead is to recalibrate and reconfigure their views and expectations of showbiz as it relate to them because clearly, showbiz has a face of mukhang puti o mukhang foreigner. Having a showbiz face like that sure is a boon for the skin whitening manufacturers but not good for the Filipinos.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com